USS Liberty? Check. October Surprise? Check. The Maine? Check. The Mossadegh/ Lumumba / "interventions", et al? Check and double-check)... shit confirmed in the frickin NYT, ferchrissakes... and rather than see these "limited hangouts" as confirmations of an entirely predictable and much larger pattern, we shrug them off as aberrations of a supposedly dark age the Gubmint has long-since outgrown!
(sfx: phlegm-rich Satanic chuckle)
Don't feel bad, though. Our minds have been terraformed (and our material realities constricted and metered) by some of the finest amoral minds recruited from Harvard, Princeton, Yale and MIT. In fact, if the Evil Ones haven't recruited your ass by now, you can't be very good at what you do, Negro!
Damn.
CD,Just checking in until my return in November as usual you are rocking it!!Apparently some of my young associates have posted here and caught the wrath of CNu and others that is always a good thing:-)I sometimes miss the discourse but I needed a break ... Catch up with you and the crew in November..Greg
Good list, I'd add something else: nationalism. This is a dirty word in American public discourse (we prefer to use "patriotism"), but American political life is nationalistic to an extreme degree. When our leaders want us to join in the next war or imperial adventure, they merely have to wrap themselves in the flag, and accuse their opponents of treason. I seem to remember that working very well during the run up to the invasion of Iraq.
@Thrasher. Your students need more teaching. Work more with them.@Mr. Bear. Good to hear from you. How is the land of real pizza and good Chinese food. Nationalism? Americans? Us? No way. That American exceptionalism thing is real. God said so.
American politics is the science of deception. Until a significant mass of people break the monopoly which the two-party system has on their minds, liberation from the tyranny of the oligarchic psychopathocracy is not only unachievable, it’s unthinkable.
"American politics is the science of deception. Until a significant mass of people break the monopoly which the two-party system has on their minds, liberation from the tyranny of the oligarchic psychopathocracy is not only unachievable, it’s unthinkable."And then what? After the collapse of the two-party system, what political system shall we use to deceive the masses with illusions of freedom, justice, and security?
"And then what? After the collapse of the two-party system, what political system shall we use to deceive the masses with illusions of freedom, justice, and security?"Not exactly sure what this means. Irony, perhaps. Of course we do not need to replace the system that deceives the people with a new system that deceives the people. In fact it is not the 2 party system that has failed. Only one of the parties. There is no two party system. One party, the GOP, has totally defeated and coopted the other. The Dem party is now the left wing of the Rep party and now only engages in faux opposition. What has failed is the Dem party. It has failed to mount a real opposition to Reaganization and hence, in the culmination, delivers as its champion a Rep in Dem clothing, Obama. It is the Democratic party that has failed, and the necessity is not to scrap the two party system but to replace the Dem party with a true liberal/progressive opposition party. What was it that nomad character used to say?. Oh, yeah.THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MUST DIE!!!!
And then what? After the collapse of the two-party system, what political system shall we use to deceive the masses with illusions of freedom, justice, and security?lol, whatever it is - you know there'll still be angry, impotent, defeated old "youknowwhos" whoopin they gums like they was bout to do sumfin....,
Cool that somebody still Remembers the Maine. When are we going to finish what we started with those Spanish bastards? (irony notice: this comment may contain irony, and was manufactured in a facility that processes sarcasm)
There is an exception: on matters of race the American people do know how they feel, are willing to express their feelings, and their opinions are well-structured.Hang on! How well do we know those things? The Implicit Association Test (which you just mentioned in a recent post!) seems to blow at least one of the first two completely out of the water for most Americans.
i tend to be an optimist, CD, and in my daily life i see signs that not much has changed. public schools and colleges have always been the same drivel, but they have always also produced a consistent tiny minority of informed and intelligent people who do good things in the world. i think getting older throws this into sharper focus, but it doesn't mean that hasn't always been the way. i think such things are rather static. the world ebbs and flows. perhaps this is me being passive, but i think i can safely say that based on my opinions expressed on other posts, i am not generally a passive person. and when i am, it is genuine.
BuzzBuzz...Anybody got a fly swatter?
@Anon 7:07My point is that it doesn't matter what system you use: Two-party, third party, aristocracy, plutocracy, monarchy, they will all devolve into psychopathocracies so long as people are convinced that the box is real.
That may indeed be the case. I don't know. My point is it's not the two party system that's failing us in this case. Unless you call the complete failure of one of the parties collapse of system. It could be argued that when you have 2 rightwing parties, like we do now -one right, the other batshit crazy- you don't really have a 2 party system.And I am certainly not alone in my assertion that the failure of the Dem party is the problem here."Clearly, the time has long since come for labor and progressives to bolt the Democratic Party and coalesce around a new genuinely progressive, working people’s party." http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1198Where I differ from some is that I don't think third party is the answer. Keep the 2 party system. Just get rid of the faux opposition Democratic Party. We need genuine liberal/progressive opposition to right wing madness.
Not to forget that the billionaires are very active in making sure all of these conditions remain as so.
Right you are, sabrinabee . It's all about the economy. Politics is just the means by which the economy is enforced.http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/06/3-minute-video-todays-economic-slavery-human-nature-betrayed.htmlBTW, remember that faux opposition I was talking about? I wonder why Barama didn't show up to campaign in Wisconsin, such a critical election? You would think if he were really on the side of labor and the 99 percent, he woulda been out there stompin'. It's almost like he wants the conservatives to win, isn't it? BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA....Get it? He's leading you to where he wants you to go by letting the people who's politics he secretly supports win. War. Social Safety Net. Healthcare Unreform. Bankster bailout. Bush Tax cuts. In addition the stuff that HE wants, independent of them -police state and assassination powers- are not really liberal or progressive values. Get the picture? This is somebody's president -my guess is the CIA's- but it's not the liberal's president. It's not labor's. And it IS NOT BLACK AMERICA's president. Get that notion out your mind. This is the mask of creeping fascism.
Economics is the publishing of political agendas that are hidden within known-false assumptions. If one accepts these assumptions then one accepts the hidden agendas.
...why, nobody even told me...!
Anyway. I often put it this way: if they can get you to believe in a bearded, anus-free, vaguely-Levantine Sky Giant... what *can't* they get you to believe in?
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CD,
Just checking in until my return in November as usual you are rocking it!!
Apparently some of my young associates have posted here and caught the wrath of CNu and others that is always a good thing:-)
I sometimes miss the discourse but I needed a break ... Catch up with you and the crew in November..
Greg
Good list, I'd add something else: nationalism. This is a dirty word in American public discourse (we prefer to use "patriotism"), but American political life is nationalistic to an extreme degree. When our leaders want us to join in the next war or imperial adventure, they merely have to wrap themselves in the flag, and accuse their opponents of treason. I seem to remember that working very well during the run up to the invasion of Iraq.
@Thrasher. Your students need more teaching. Work more with them.
@Mr. Bear. Good to hear from you. How is the land of real pizza and good Chinese food. Nationalism? Americans? Us? No way. That American exceptionalism thing is real. God said so.
American politics is the science of deception. Until a significant mass of people break the monopoly which the two-party system has on their minds, liberation from the tyranny of the oligarchic psychopathocracy is not only unachievable, it’s unthinkable.
"American politics is the science of deception. Until a significant mass of people break the monopoly which the two-party system has on their minds, liberation from the tyranny of the oligarchic psychopathocracy is not only unachievable, it’s unthinkable."
And then what? After the collapse of the two-party system, what political system shall we use to deceive the masses with illusions of freedom, justice, and security?
"And then what? After the collapse of the two-party system, what political system shall we use to deceive the masses with illusions of freedom, justice, and security?"
Not exactly sure what this means. Irony, perhaps. Of course we do not need to replace the system that deceives the people with a new system that deceives the people. In fact it is not the 2 party system that has failed. Only one of the parties. There is no two party system. One party, the GOP, has totally defeated and coopted the other. The Dem party is now the left wing of the Rep party and now only engages in faux opposition. What has failed is the Dem party. It has failed to mount a real opposition to Reaganization and hence, in the culmination, delivers as its champion a Rep in Dem clothing, Obama. It is the Democratic party that has failed, and the necessity is not to scrap the two party system but to replace the Dem party with a true liberal/progressive opposition party. What was it that nomad character used to say?. Oh, yeah.
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MUST DIE!!!!
And then what? After the collapse of the two-party system, what political system shall we use to deceive the masses with illusions of freedom, justice, and security?
lol, whatever it is - you know there'll still be angry, impotent, defeated old "youknowwhos" whoopin they gums like they was bout to do sumfin....,
Cool that somebody still Remembers the Maine. When are we going to finish what we started with those Spanish bastards?
(irony notice: this comment may contain irony, and was manufactured in a facility that processes sarcasm)
There is an exception: on matters of race the American people do know how they feel,
are willing to express their feelings,
and their opinions are well-structured.
Hang on! How well do we know those things? The Implicit Association Test (which you just mentioned in a recent post!) seems to blow at least one of the first two completely out of the water for most Americans.
i tend to be an optimist, CD, and in my daily life i see signs that not much has changed. public schools and colleges have always been the same drivel, but they have always also produced a consistent tiny minority of informed and intelligent people who do good things in the world. i think getting older throws this into sharper focus, but it doesn't mean that hasn't always been the way.
i think such things are rather static. the world ebbs and flows. perhaps this is me being passive, but i think i can safely say that based on my opinions expressed on other posts, i am not generally a passive person. and when i am, it is genuine.
BuzzBuzz...Anybody got a fly swatter?
@Anon 7:07
My point is that it doesn't matter what system you use: Two-party, third party, aristocracy, plutocracy, monarchy, they will all devolve into psychopathocracies so long as people are convinced that the box is real.
That may indeed be the case. I don't know. My point is it's not the two party system that's failing us in this case. Unless you call the complete failure of one of the parties collapse of system. It could be argued that when you have 2 rightwing parties, like we do now -one right, the other batshit crazy- you don't really have a 2 party system.
And I am certainly not alone in my assertion that the failure of the Dem party is the problem here.
"Clearly, the time has long since come for labor and progressives to bolt the Democratic Party and coalesce around a new genuinely progressive, working people’s party." http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/1198
Where I differ from some is that I don't think third party is the answer. Keep the 2 party system. Just get rid of the faux opposition Democratic Party. We need genuine liberal/progressive opposition to right wing madness.
Not to forget that the billionaires are very active in making sure all of these conditions remain as so.
Right you are, sabrinabee . It's all about the economy. Politics is just the means by which the economy is enforced.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/06/3-minute-video-todays-economic-slavery-human-nature-betrayed.html
BTW, remember that faux opposition I was talking about? I wonder why Barama didn't show up to campaign in Wisconsin, such a critical election? You would think if he were really on the side of labor and the 99 percent, he woulda been out there stompin'. It's almost like he wants the conservatives to win, isn't it? BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA....
Get it? He's leading you to where he wants you to go by letting the people who's politics he secretly supports win. War. Social Safety Net. Healthcare Unreform. Bankster bailout. Bush Tax cuts. In addition the stuff that HE wants, independent of them -police state and assassination powers- are not really liberal or progressive values. Get the picture? This is somebody's president -my guess is the CIA's- but it's not the liberal's president. It's not labor's. And it IS NOT BLACK AMERICA's president. Get that notion out your mind. This is the mask of creeping fascism.
Economics is the publishing of political agendas that are hidden within known-false assumptions. If one accepts these assumptions then one accepts the hidden agendas.
...why, nobody even told me...!
Anyway. I often put it this way: if they can get you to believe in a bearded, anus-free, vaguely-Levantine Sky Giant... what *can't* they get you to believe in?
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