In Michigan City, Indiana two elementary school aged white children savagely beat and throttled the elderly bus monitor and driver who were given the sacred responsibility of safely transporting them to school. As is common with white crimes, the media has conspired to play down this incident, and is not showing the public pictures of these young criminals in training.
These behaviors are learned at home; it is likely the parents were aware of their childrens' criminal nature and did nothing to intervene or correct it. The bus beat down is not new. White boys and teens habitually commit horrible violence in schools. They have a long track record of school shootings and mass murder including the infamous Columbine incident. White violence is infectious and has even corrupted good "model minorities" such as Korean-Americans (see the Virginia Tech shooter who killed 32 people and wounded scores more).
Instead of demanding that white teen homicidal maniacs are imprisoned, the white community engages in "soul searching" as they try to "make sense" of how their little angels could commit such heinous deeds. This is evidence of a pathologically violent culture that has spawned serial killers, mass murderers, and domestic terrorists.
Charles Edward Reese is our second white criminal of the week. He is a pervert of the first order. Because the family and home are the first spaces in which children are socialized, the criminal behavior of white young people should not be a surprise. White children are learning these anti-social values from their mothers and fathers.
With the failure of white communities, and their moral decline as documented by Charles Murray in his new book Coming Apart, the behavior of white men such as Reese is increasingly common. At present, white people are the majority of child rapists and child murderers. They are also more likely to be pedophiles. Their dominance of these categories of wanton and predatory crime can only be expected to grow in the future.
Tragically, Charles Edward Reese is the tip of a pathological white sex culture that imperils all Americans. Be careful. Do not trust your children around white people--especially white men--as they are capable of anything.
The full story follows:
COVINGTON, La. (CBS Houston) – Federal authorities say a man is behind bars after he paid women to have sex with their children and animals.
Charles Edward Reese, the former chief financial officer of Champagne Beverage, is facing charges for the unlawful production of child pornography after paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to women who, in exchange, would provide Reese with sexual videos involving them with their own children.
According to the Slidell Sentry, Reese conned at least two women into sending him child pornography videos of an explicit and incestuous nature.
The money – amounting to over $750,000 – was reportedly sent to one Vidar, Texas, woman in exchange for videos that featured her children, ages 2 and 6, and her 9-year-old sister engaging in sex acts with her.
The Federal Bureau of Investigations became involved when the site hosting the video, Photobucket.com, became aware of the September 2011 video upload and alerted authorities. Similar videos from the same user were also found.
Reese would also send notes with his payments, some of them demanding the woman’s participation.
“If you don’t get online tomorrow morning with both of them and do what I want you to this will be the last time you ever hear from me no matter what your needs are,” a note sent with one $525 payment allegedly stated, according to the Sentry. “You have screwed me enough for a lifetime of misery.”
The woman is now deceased.
The FBI also found out that Reese sent a reported $2,500 to the woman’s adult sister, in an attempt to keep her quiet after she sent him messages about his actions, and another $7,900 to an unrelated second Texas mother.
The Beaumont Enterprise reports that the sister videotaped herself conducting “sexually explicit activities with animals.”
The second woman, who is currently incarcerated on child endangerment charges, told the FBI that she took sexual cell phone pictures of her daughter, who is less than 7 years old, and sent them to Reese.
In both cases, the women referred to Reese as “Chuck.”
Reese was reportedly booked at the St. Tammany Parish Jail, where he remained as of earlier this week. His employment at Champagne Beverage was also terminated as of early last month.
71 comments:
You just can't trust foul Whitey!
Fun part is when we white folks determine that they just need mental health HELP.
As opposed to certain "other" sorts of criminals who clearly need punishment. Preferably by killing them.
It's good to be white. I heartily recommend it to everybody.
Oh, it's a two fer. There must be an overstock of White criminals.
I especially liked
"White crime only flourishes when good people do nothing."
Nice touch. Followed closely by
"White violence is infectious",
"This is evidence of a pathologically violent culture" and
"Do not trust your children around white people--especially white men--as they are capable of anything."
Yep, I think you about covered all of the bases.
Quick quiz: What do white men dress up as on Halloween?
A: Nothing. They are scary enough as they are.
Just goes to show ya... Assholes come in all colors.
@Anon. Ain't that the point?
Assholes who are white just happen to be assholes. Black people who are assholes are Black Assholes.
my god! truly an exploration of the whitest depths of caucasian depravity.
@chauncydevega @anon let the truth be known: no asshole smells as foul as the white asshole!
There's no hope for Anon 8:06, he's totally consumed.
As much as the evil of the criminals discussed above sickens me. There is another aspect that CD touched on when he said this kind of crime was bound to increase that I'd like to mention.
Years ago crimes like this were rare. Today they are all too common. I'm wondering if the increase has to do with the internet? Or if people with this sickness feel they have the freedom to release their inhibitions?
No doubt Anon 8:06 will claim that everyday that the sun comes up white folks get more evil.
@ sledge:
where do you cite from that crimes like this were less common? many prominent writers on criminal psychology such as colin wilson argue that such crimes simply become harder to cover up, as opposed to more common, with the dawn of things like the internet.
@sledge
Nonsense. Crimes like these weren't rare. They just weren't reported. Patriachs weilded extreme control over the family. Family members practiced a what happens in the home, or church, or workplace stays there approach. It was reinforced by a patriarchial society where women and children's whole livelihoods depended on keeping Pa or uncle out of jail. What has happened is society has had to evolve. It is no longer acceptable to overlook abuses of women and children. In some cases those with first hand knowledge of those aabuses, possibly like the computer company involved here, are required to report it or risk backlash for keeping mum.
This does seem like something that merits its own site, but it is fun, in its way. I really hate being tied up with these numbskulls, but I guess that's a feeling that is familiar to you.
@freebones & sabrinabee
Regardless of subject, I myself look at everything written by authorities and experts with a critical eye. The longer I live the more I'm amazed at the total smoke and mirrors a large portion of these people put out for a myriad of reasons.
You are referencing vast numbers of crimes and atrocities that were never reported, no evidence collected and no person convicted.
Yet because it fits some experts self serving agenda or view giving them incentive to put the claim on paper as a fact. They wrote it so it must accepted be true.
There was a time when doors were left unlocked, kids took off on a Saturday morning and weren't seen again until after dark because they running everywhere playing with their friends, and it was safe to let your kids camp out in the back yard. Kids didn't have to monitored every second to make sure they were safe because the parents had a lot of help.
Everyone in neighborhoods interacted with and knew each other personally. I wasn't like you had to wonder if there was a perv living 9 blocks over. You knew everyone who lived on that street personally.
If little 10 yr. old Tommy and his buddies were up to something they shouldn't have been they would be called to account by adults who knew them and their family. The parents of each kid would get a phone call and little Tommy and his friends would be called to account for their sins.
When little 10 yr old Tommy was caught by a cop misbehaving he wasn't cuffed, patted down and taken into custody. The cop would put him in the car, drive him home and drop him off on the front porch. Leaving instructions for Tommy to tell his parents what he had been doing.
And Tommy knew he better do it too because the cop knew his parents and would be talking to them later.
There was abuse that came to light, but it wasn't rampant. If it had been everyone in the neighborhood would have known about it. And it would have been addressed.
I agree that we have evolved, another word for change, as a society. In some ways that's good and in other ways it's not working out so well.
@Chauncey: Just for grins, please provide your source reporting that these perps were white. I don't care if they are or not, but it would be nice to see some evidence.
(None of the reports I've found mention race, and the TV station that aired the report wouldn't say. Yes, that means I took the trouble to call them up and ask).
@Color. I hope you are kidding and didn't waste time to call them and ask. It doesn't matter if it was stated plainly that they were white or not, as with Black Crimes, suggestion and implication is enough. We all know "how those people are."
Chauncey
I too went to the link involving the children beating the bus driver and wondered where it said the children were white. Obliviously, knowing that you are no idiot, I concluded that you did this on purpose. I can’t tell you how many times on Yahoo News/ other new sites people claim the offender is black, when in reality the offender is white and/ unknown. Yet for lying and claiming the offender black, the poster gets many positive feedbacks.
Of course Colorbind missed the joke! LOL!
@Anon. Thank you--yes, it was intentional. And again, we all know who those people are and how they behave! Be careful.
@ChaunceyDeBS
Suggestions and implications are NOT enough. Your headline says "White Children Severely Beat Bus Driver and Elderly Aide". That is a LIE.
I will repeat. That is a LIE.
How do I know? Because I did something you are apparently too lazy to do. I called the LaPorte, Indiana Police Department. Here are the facts:
Both of the kids are BLACK.
Personally, it doesn't matter a bit to me what race these perps are. What matters to me is your gross dishonesty in making an assertion without checking its validity.
But then, you've already been doing that with most of your attacks on me on these pages.
Go ahead. Spin this one. Did you lie? Or did you just make it up? Or do you even care? Is your race-baiting so precious to you that the truth doesn't matter?
Most of your comments to me have clearly demonstrated this to be the case.
As always, FACTUAL evidence to the contrary is welcome.
@Colorobsessedwithtoomuchtimeonhishands:
Read what I wrote above.
Are you serious? Really. I should make a comic book with you as the central character. You could be a version of Batman. But instead of defending Gotham, you defend the reputations of white people who are unfairly charged with racism.
If you devoted one/tenth of the energy you spend on defending poor, innocent, aggrieved whiteness from the social plague of reverse racism and black misanthropes on something of real social significance the world would be a much better place.
We need to get you a 503c tax exemption for your good work.
LOL!
Colorbind still too stupid to get it. This whole White Criminal of the Week/ Month is a parody. Chauncey is simply doing everything that is said about blacks {as it relates to crime}, to whites.
Yes Chauncey LIED, that is the entire point!!!
I'm loving this :^)
Yeah, I'm disappointed, CD.
I liked the reversal of what often happens in the white-controlled media; I don't like the defense of inaccuracy.
And there's no shortage of real white criminals in the country. I live in effectively an all-white county, and our newspapers have plenty of material. But you've also somehow basically managed to hand over a big Fuel Log of "hey look, 'progressive' Black guy can't find enough white criminals to fill out a blog post" to whomever wants to pick that puppy up and light it.
And ... untrue is untrue. I want jubilant celebration of untruths, I can go join the Republicans already.
@Chauncey: I didn't call the police to defend whites. I called to check on your integrity. Your article REPEATEDLY says the perps were white. That is not true.
I have nothing to do with this, so don't try and change the subject.
YOU LIED. You fabricated this without taking the time to check. You have plenty of time to make up racist lies about me and get images for your other white criminals, but on this one, you took the lazy way out and ignored the FACTS.
And now you are again taking the lazy way out. I ask you for factual evidence to the contrary, and you pull out your "distraction with colored rhetoric" manual and type away.
Unlike you, I am an equal opportunity defender. I don't see you offering Zimmerman an equal shot on these pages, although you do sometimes attack blacks -- but only if they lean conservative. You seem to float in your ivory tower and cast aspersions of racism
on any who don't see the world the way you do. In some corners of the world, this would make you an outcast. But as long as you preach to your own choir, you can bask in the glow of your own narrow-mindedness.
Me? From the time I was scolded for disagreeing with my first grade teacher, I haven't shied away from saying what I believe is right, regardless of who or how racist the person I'm addressing. And I'm willing to stand up for either side, even if I come out the loser in the exchange. It's a very liberating standard to live by. You might try it sometime.
I'm really disappointed, because you seem like an intelligent person. Yet you willfully refuse to read my words as they are not only intended but repeatedly explained to you, and stick to your biased and wrongheaded assumptions. When asked for proof, you dance but never take the needed steps.
I'm beginning to lose hope for you.
And, FWIW, If I ever had a forum such as this and you were a commenter, you would be accorded vastly more respect than I have been shown here.
We have very different standards.
LOL! Colorbind is in a sad state not understanding the reason for this post and the reason Chauncey's "lied".
"Unlike you, I am an equal opportunity defender. "- Colorbind
Can you link to any other websites where you defend Trayvon against lies/ slander as you do with Zimmerman? Waiting please....
@tom. I didn't "lie" as some have suggested--they are not actually doing their homework which is typical for racism deniers. The original story did not mention the race of the children. Once more, in keeping with how blacks and people of color are framed by the news media, I took them to be white.
The whole point again being it doesn't matter as retractions or corrections are rarely if ever printed when people of color are accused of crimes and it turns out the perps were white.
This actually fits my argument perfectly.
@Chauncey: If I may hijack your answer to Tom above, you are the one who didn't do your homework (which could be typical for racism fabricators). Your other white criminals have pictures and details. You repeatedly named the perps in this story as white. You were too lazy to verify your claim and now you are trying to spin your way out. The whole point is that this time you lied about the race of the kids. No matter how you spin it. your words were dishonest.
@Anonymous -- and I'm sure I already answered this for you earlier today, and I see this same question not only here but on another of Chauncey's articles. So I will answer it again here, and you can take it as the final answer for your repeated questions:
1) The articles I've been getting lately (like this one, since I occasionally check Chauncey's site to check his latest target) have been from black sites. So, as logic would dictate, nearly all of the "attacks" are against Zimmerman. Were I on a white supremacy site (where I have yet to venture), I would likely have the chance to defend Trayvon. (And yes, this does appear to be a black supremacy site, if you're wondering).
I have recently (and I do not have the links handy, but I'll keep you in mind, now that you've asked) praised Sybrina Fulton for her demeanor, noted that some early pictures of "thug" Trayvon were not really him, and told a commenter that their statements of Trayvon being 6'3" and 170 pounds did not match with the police report.
If I had seen anyone writing (and bear in mind, I tend to make a comment and respond to replies, rather than read every single posting -- I, too, only have so much time) that Trayvon had gone after Zimmerman because of his color, I would have responded the same way I do when someone claims (falsely, based on present evidence) that Martin was attacked because of his race.
I have also repeatedly stated that were the roles in this case reversed, I would be advocating for Martin.
If you can find anything in this position that is racist or unfair, please educate me.
And just to avoid confusion, rather than checking off Anonymous, please write Anonymous with a number after it. It gets confusing trying to figure out which "anonymous" I'm trying to reply to. Thanks.
Okay Colorbind, but can you link me to the page in which you defend Trayvon against slander/ lies?
Anon 1
@sledge:
i idly asked because i was curious. you could have nicely explained where you got the idea, and maybe won a supporter in the process. but you were just arrogant. i'm sorry that questioning your sense of authority hurts your soul so much. at least i cited a writer. all you do is call us sheep. try again. try citing something. anything.
@ colorbind:
you are missing the point entirely. he knows he lied. he did it on purpose. we all get that joke. he did it on purpose because it is done so often to blacks. it is an illustration of it. and your frustration at it is exactly the point. do you call local news when news articles don't mention race but people assume criminals to be black? no. because you are defender of whiteness. and that's totally fine. as a fellow whitey, i appreciate it. but this is not meant to be factual. it is meant to turn the tables, as they say.
god, everyone be mad.
@ freebones
That came across as arrogant? Really? Man, that's a pretty good trick for an underdeveloped white guy. LOL!
I'm really sorry if that's the way that you read it. Honestly that's not the way it was coming out in my mind.
Asking me to cite someone is asking me to prove a false negative. There isn't anyone to cite because there were not the reported cases, evidence or convictions.
When an author says that there must have been untold numbers of cases that were just never discovered he is working from assumption because the proof doesn't exist.
See what I'm getting at? The rest of the post was observations from a period I lived in. Although, I got in a lot more trouble than little Tommy. Poverty many times works that way until someone helps straighten you out.
@sledge:
funny how the internet works. i was sure it was meant to be dismissive. pardons all around.
i'm just saying that plenty of writers and scholars that i'm aware of say that. and it is true that crimes were easier to cover up in ye olde times (that's how the marquis de sade got away with his insanity!). plus, i don't think humans have really gotten any more or less evil as time has progressed. we just have more access to things.
and someone who wants to watch a lady and her kid fuck a dog or whatever is probably going to end up doing something crazy regardless.
@Freebones: True. I did miss that point, because every other white criminal I've seen on these pages actually was white. So when Chauncey repeatedly stated as fact that these kids were white, I saw no reason to treat this article any different than the others. (I missed the "I always tell the truth but this time I'm only joking" disclaimer).
@Anonymous: See my post above at 3:55.
@Chauncey. Our "technical difficulties" seem to have been resolved. Thanks.
@colorblind
When CD started this White Criminal thing he insinuated that he was do it to show the relationship between what blacks endure in the mindset of whites. How black crime is attributed to the entire race while white crime is seen by whites as individualistic.
Hence the exaggerated comments he throws to create effect.
I do find it amusing that he had to substitute a black crime as a white crime. One can only hope that was because he is running out of white criminals. LOL!
@Sledge I doubt that Chauncey will run out of white criminals, as they are also plentiful. It does, however, show that not all assumptions about crime and racism are accurate.
@Colorbind
I love how you really like using words such as 'liar' and 'lazy' in reference to CDV. I think the same thing happens when Rush Limbaugh uses word like 'street' politics and 'thug' chicago politics when referencing Obama. And of course the whole 'you lie' thing. It's interesting to see what words attract you and you like to express. It is very telling, especially when viewed in aggregate nationally. When viewing the Rorschach of CDV's postings, it is interesting what kind of material bubbles up to the surface of your consciousness.
@ Colorbind
I completely missed when you replied that you have no links to provide for the repeated times you come to Trayvon's defense. In fact, I should have asked you more broadly can you provide any links to any websites in which you come to the defense of blacks who are slandered?
I’m on the web often enough and everyday I hear lies spewed about blacks. I laughed hard when you stated “Were I on a white supremacy site” because the funny thing is that you do not need to go to these white supremacy sites to find people slandering black. Many mainstream along with many mainstream conservative sites have people lying about blacks ALL day long.
But since you consider We Are Respectable Negroes to be a black supremacy site and feel the need to defend whiteness/ white people so much, certainly if you “treat and defend” everyone the same, you should be able to link to at least one site in which you defend blacks?
@WeirdBeard: It's dishonest to blame blacks for white crime, and it's dishonest to blame whites for black crimes. Agreed? Integrity and hypocrisy are my hot buttons. Here they just happen to be about race.
@Anonymous: Sorry, I do not keep links to all my postings, although I will be aware of your need for validation in the future. Some of the sites I have been on recently regarding Trayvon include My Black World, Black Like Moi, Kulture Kritic, Your Black Bloggers, The Grio, and Salon. My disqus username is Playrighter.
You wrongly claim I feel the need to defend whiteness and white people. First of all, you are wrong. Secondly, I feel the need to defend anyone who is wronged. If you check my blood and organ donor information, it says nothing about race. Finally, if you haven't noticed, George Zimmerman is NOT "white".
You now know where to look. See if you can find any racism in my comments -- for either side.
Knock yourself out.
"You wrongly claim I feel the need to defend whiteness and white people.First of all, you are wrong." Colorbind
That's why I'm asking you to provide at least ONE link in which you have defended blacks. And yes your need to defend whiteness is evident in this parody White Criminal of the Week post.
"Secondly, I feel the need to defend anyone who is wronged." Colorbind
So then provide at least ONE link in which you have defended blacks.
"Finally, if you haven't noticed, George Zimmerman is NOT "white". Colorbind
Who knows whether Zimmerman identifies himself as white, mix/ Hispanics. The fact is that we know Zimmerman ain't black.
"You now know where to look. See if you can find any racism in my comments -- for either side." Colorbind
I never said there was any racism in your comments- i simply said you defend white/ whiteness.
I find it strange how you cannot link to ONE website in which you defend blacks against slander. For someone who claims they're an equal opportunist when it comes to defending the truth then surely you must be able to point to at least ONE instance in which you defended blacks.
Therefore I'm finding your claims to be an "equal opportunity defender" bogus.
@ Colorbind
Also correct me if I’m wrong but if you use Disqus and have a username, shouldn’t you be able to pull up all your past comments?
@Anonymous: My response to you have again disappeared, and I'm getting tired of doing your research for you.
The sites I get emailed articles from are black sites, and therefore are almost exclusively anti-Zimmerman. So there aren't that many comments of the sort you mention. How many women did you rescue from rape yesterday? None? Wow. By your logic, that must make you a woman hater. Fair? No. And neither is your charge against me.
Anyway, I spent a bunch of time doing your work for you, and the results (if they don't disappear again) will be below.
@Anonymous See below for what SHOULD HAVE BEEN the first posting (this site keeps eating my posts)
@Anonymous: The list of comments and websites have now vanished THREE TIMES. And I've got better things to do than keep typing them in only to have them vanish.
Provide your email address, and I will be happy to send them to you.
@ Colorbind
My email address is doguns1@yahoo.com.
@ anon 1 The links and comments are now in your yahoo inbox. Let me know what you think of them. Thanks.
@ Colorbind
I read your comments.
I must admit that your lukewarm "support" for Trayvon was pathetic. I was hoping you would link me to a site in which you fought "tooth and nail" against all the slander regarding Trayvon. Never once did I hear you call anyone a Liar like you've done numerous times on this blogs (even though I read many lies concerning Trayvon/ blacks on the Real Clear Politics site). Also I took note that much of your support for Trayvon, also came off in support of Zimmerman too. Nonetheless I'll copy and paste your comments without the links for all too see and judge for themselves.
If this is the best that you can show for support for blacks/ Trayvon, I still do question your "equal opportunity defender" claim.
Colorblind past comment:
Here is for all to judge.
"Anyone who thinks it's acceptable to gun somebody down because of their color is wrong. I believe your 67% figure is way off, but would like to know your source.
White racists should be dealt with. So should black racists.
1. And brown racists...
And all other racists.
But if you're on a site denying a man what based on evidence was legal self defense while inciting others to start shooting, you might be just a tad bit less than consistent.
Agreed. If the evidence says self defense, Zimmerman was in the right.
The problem is that Zimmerman has been tarred and feathered by way too much FALSE information, including statements (by Trayvon's mother, even) that he outweighed Martin by one hundred pounds. The difference is closer to twenty to thirty pounds.
Likewise, credibility suffers with the claim that Trayvon was "nearly a foot taller", when that's also a distortion.
There have been way too many distortions in this case, and a lot of needless anger stirred up because of them.
We need to deal with facts. Period. No rush to judgment from any side.
Like much of the claims against Zimmerman, one of your statistics is also false. Martin was not nearly a foot taller than Zimmerman. Zimmerman is 5'9", and Martin has been listed at 6'1" to 6'2", so the height advantage is either four or five inches.
You raise some interesting points. I hope we do hear of documentation from the store, although I don't know of anyone who would hang onto a receipt for candy and a drink -- those would likely be in the trash immediately. The security tapes, if they still exist, might tell us something -- including whether Trayvon paid for the merchandise (some have suggested he didn't, and this tape could put an end to that thought).
Good point, and it raises questions. If (as reported) Trayvon was shot in the chest, why would Zimmerman have been straddling his prone body, if not to have just pushed the body off of him, or checking for signs of life?
If Zimmerman straddled a face up body, that's a lot different than one face down.
The 6 foot 2 inch makes sense based on reports. I've seen nothing claiming Trayvon was 220 pounds (although some on the left have claimed idiotically that Zimmerman outweighed him by 100 pounds).
Please provide the source of this claim of Trayvon's weight. Thank you.
playrighter April 17, 2012 at 3:08 pm
Martin and Zimmerman are (or were) entitled to the same rights. If the roles had been reversed, they
should have been treated the same.
That also goes for the background on them. Different standards shouldn’t apply. And some of what we saw of Trayvon may be because a PR firm was running his publicity campaign, something Zimmerman didn’t have.
That said, the fireman’s comments are way out of line. Trayvon’s mother looks to be a very fine woman.
playrighter April 22, 2012 at 10:01 pm
I will agree that Trayvon did not deserve to die — unless he put Zimmerman in a position where it was “pull out your gun and shoot or you are likely to die or be gravely injured”, and the court case will show if that was the case.
I watched the O’Reilly interview. It was very respectful and both sides thanked the other. What’s your problem with it?"
@ Colorbind
In fact, one of your comments even managed t bash Obama in the process:
You wrote: "The 6 foot 2 inch makes sense based on reports. I've seen nothing claiming Trayvon was 220 pounds (although some on the left have claimed idiotically that Zimmerman outweighed him by 100 pounds).
Please provide the source of this claim of Trayvon's weight. Thank you.
PS: With the current atmosphere, aided and abetted by the actions of Obama (including endorsing some rap artists by boasting they are on his IPad), there are many people who
would be making the same attacks on Zimmerman even if there were a crystal clear video showing an unprovoked attack by Martin, and Zimmerman shooting only to survive.”
You call that support for Trayvon? And then you falsely accuse Obama of aiding and abetting what exactly? Has Romney and Santorum aided and abetted this issue with their comments? If there was a crystal clear video showing Zimmerman attacked Martin many would still support Zimmerman. And what the hell does listening to rap have to do with anything?
Colorbind certainly you have better proof of you defending blacks against the massive amount of slander on the web.
Who's the idiot? Pay better attention, the FL State Prosecutor made the decision not to arrest Zimmerman on the night that suspected burglar, Traythug died in his assault and battery on Captain Zimmerman, based on the SPD's preliminary Report, the eye witness testimonies, and the evidence of the crime scene. Gee, the Prosecutor that night didn't even know about Treythug being busted at school with stolen women's jewelery and a burglar tool in his back pack, amazing, sounds like Justice, right?
1.
@ Colorbind
I read all your posts and to be honest I thought your lukewarm "support" of Trayvon was laughable. Much of your support for Trayvon still comes off in defense of Zimmerman. Since you are fond of calling people a liar on this blog when they say sometthing untrue, I was hoping to see you call the many who slander Trayvon a liar.
I will post the comments you sent me for others to judge.
If this is the best you can do to prove you are an "equal opportunity defender" in light of the massive anti-black lies spread on the web, I say you're b_llsh_tting.
Colorbind postings:
"Anyone who thinks it's acceptable to gun somebody down because of their color is wrong. I believe your 67% figure is way off, but would like to know your source.
White racists should be dealt with. So should black racists.
1. And brown racists...
And all other racists.
But if you're on a site denying a man what based on evidence was legal self defense while inciting others to start shooting, you might be just a tad bit less than consistent.
Agreed. If the evidence says self defense, Zimmerman was in the right.
The problem is that Zimmerman has been tarred and feathered by way too much FALSE information, including statements (by Trayvon's mother, even) that he outweighed Martin by one hundred pounds. The difference is closer to twenty to thirty pounds.
Likewise, credibility suffers with the claim that Trayvon was "nearly a foot taller", when that's also a distortion.
There have been way too many distortions in this case, and a lot of needless anger stirred up because of them.
We need to deal with facts. Period. No rush to judgment from any side."
Colorbind's postings:
Like much of the claims against Zimmerman, one of your statistics is also false. Martin was not nearly a foot taller than Zimmerman. Zimmerman is 5'9", and Martin has been listed at 6'1" to 6'2", so the height advantage is either four or five inches.
You raise some interesting points. I hope we do hear of documentation from the store, although I don't know of anyone who would hang onto a receipt for candy and a drink -- those would likely be in the trash immediately. The security tapes, if they still exist, might tell us something -- including whether Trayvon paid for the merchandise (some have suggested he didn't, and this tape could put an end to that thought). "
@Anon 1: First of all, the posting above "Who's the idiot / treythug" is not mine. I don't know where you got it or who wrote it, but it is NOT in the postings I sent you.
2) Please give your definition of "bash". Obama intentionally waded into this controversy with what sure looked like a staged event. It was not on the WH schedule, he took only one "unsolicited" question so that he could empathize with Trayvon, before going back into the WH. He spent one third of his time on Trayvon, after introducing a new rep to the World Bank (worthy of a spur of the moment presser?) He had as much business getting involved in this (likely to pump up his base) as he did jumping into the Skip Gates mess). If telling the truth about Obama is "bashing", what are your standards? I also mentioned his bragging about the rap on his IPOD (which he won't let his daughters listen to) as another way of "being down with the homies". Bashing? Hardly. Did his little talk aid and abet? If you can tell me that the POTUS making a public statement that his son would look like Trayvon didn't add fuel to the growing fire, I may have a bridge for you.
I didn't call out lies against Martin because I didn't recall seeing any. I called out CDV because he repeatedly called the bus driver attackers WHITE when in fact (per the Police Department) they were black. That is not just an opinion. That is factually dishonest. I like facts.
As I mentioned to you, I read the articles that are sent to me. I only see what I see, and can't respond to something I don't see. (Derek Jeter can't hit a slow hanging curve ball that is not pitched to him.) So it's unfair to blame me for not reacting to things I don't see.
You should at least admit that I did, when I had the chance, stand up for both sides. And (as you noted in my "bashing" of Obama) I did not edit my comments.
I still maintain I have been objective. I have given you a list of several sites I have commented on. If you can find ANYTHING I have written that is unfair to either Martin or Zimmerman, I invite you to call me out on it.
Otherwise, I would appreciate a bit of fairmindedness on my consistent attempts to be fair to all involved.
Thanks.
@ Colorbind
“First of all, the posting above "Who's the idiot / treythug" is not mine. I don't know where you got it or who wrote it, but it is NOT in the postings I sent you.”
Yes that is not your posting. Chauncey site is having major problems. I sent a follow up post stating that I did not mean to include that posting. In fact, I’m surprised these posts are showing up because they weren’t even showing up when I posted at work yesterday. But yes you are right, that is NOT your post and I do not want anyone to think you wrote that.
Regarding Obama, the press asked Obama about the Trayvon incident just like they asked Romney and Santorum about the case. All three men gave their opinion and basically said the same thing- that they are hoping justice will take its proper course. So then why only the focus on Obama’s actions? And again – What the hell does listening to rap have to do with anything? Obama listens to rap. And so? How does this fact relate to the Trayvon issue other than YOU making a connection to race- “his homies”? Did Obama talk about Travyon and then mention his love of rap music? And btw, I’m sure his daughters do listen to rap because only a white person would believe that all rap is bad.
I do agree with you about this- Obama making the statement that his son would look like Trayvon did add fuel to the growing fire and SO what! Obama, just like every influential black person make statements – no matter how right they may be- that adds fuel to the fire because there is a large population of whites that harbor anti-black sentiments. So what! Obama should have kept his mouth shut regarding this Trayvon national tragedy?
@ Colorbind
“First of all, the posting above "Who's the idiot / treythug" is not mine. I don't know where you got it or who wrote it, but it is NOT in the postings I sent you.”
Yes that is not your posting. Chauncey site is having major problems. I sent a follow up post stating that I did not mean to include that posting. In fact, I’m surprised these posts are showing up because they weren’t even showing up when I posted at work yesterday. But yes you are right, that is NOT your post and I do not want anyone to think you wrote that.
Regarding, Obama, the press asked Obama about the Trayvon incident just like they asked Romney and Santorum about the case. All three men gave their opinion and basically said the same thing- that they are hoping justice will take its proper course. So then why only the focus on Obama’s actions? Again – What the hell does listening to rap have to do with anything? Obama listens to rap. And so? How does this fact relate to the Trayvon issue other than YOU making a connection to race- “his homies”. Did Obama talk about Travyon and then mention his love of rap music? And btw, I’m sure his daughters do listen to rap because only a white person would believe that all rap is bad.
I do agree with you about this- Obama making the statement that his son would look like Trayvon did add fuel to the growing fire and SO what! Obama, just like every influential black person make statements – no matter how right they may be- that adds fuel to the fire because there is a large population of whites that harbor anti-black sentiments. So what! Obama should have kept his mouth shut regarding this Trayvon national tragedy?
“I didn't call out lies against Martin because I didn't recall seeing any. I called out CDV because he repeatedly called the bus driver attackers WHITE when in fact (per the Police Department) they were black. That is not just an opinion. That is factually dishonest. I like facts.” Colorbind
As stated numerous times, there are numerous anti-black / Trayvon slander out there on the web, so unless you are sticking your head in sand there is plenty of opportunities for you to “hit a pitch” on behalf of lies regarding Trayvon/ blacks. I saw that you post on Fox News, Real Clear Politics, Washington Times and numerous other sites that are not centered on blacks nor slanted to the left and I know from occasionally stumbling on Fox News and other conservative sites, the amount of vitriol/ slander written blacks (and presumably Trayvon.) .
And for the millionth time, yes CDV called the attackers WHITE, but it was not to lie but to illustrate a greater point. A point you still don’t get!!! Numerous other people, including CDV, have pointed this out , but you are stuck on playing dumb.
As I mentioned to you, I read the articles that are sent to me. I only see what I see, and can't respond to something I don't see. (Derek Jeter can't hit a slow hanging curve ball that is not pitched to him.) So it's unfair to blame me for not reacting to things I don't see. – Colorbind
So you are saying that you do not see the massive amount of anti-black lies regarding Trayvon and blacks on the web, including FOX- one of the sites you post on?
You should at least admit that I did, when I had the chance, stand up for both sides. And (as you noted in my "bashing" of Obama) I did not edit my comments.- Colorbind
Your lukewarm support for Tryavon mostly concerned inaccuracies regarding his height, and if not your weak “support” for Trayvon was always followed up by your unwavering support for Zimmerman. After all, it was you who questioned whether an unarmed, non violent, young Trayvon could possibly have felt threatened by Zimmerman knowing that he was falling him. Were you playing dumb or did you honestly believe this?
I still maintain I have been objective. I have given you a list of several sites I have commented on. If you can find ANYTHING I have written that is unfair to either Martin or Zimmerman, I invite you to call me out on it.- Colorbind
I’ve asked and asked for you to prove that you are an “equal opportunity defender, but I, along with numerous others on this site, hardly have reason to believe so. You’ve stated: “I only see what I see, and can't respond to something I don't see” or “my comments may seem lukewarm, but I can't hit a pitch I don't see” and then you end by stating “I would appreciate a bit of fairmindedness on my consistent attempts to be fair to all involved.”
LOL! Are you serious?! You are telling a bold face lie. As stated for the thousand time, there are numerous anti-black / Trayvon slander out there on the web, so unless you are sticking your head in sand there is plenty of opportunities for you to “hit a pitch” on behalf of the egregious lies regarding Trayvon/ blacks. I would appreciate you to pull you head out the sand and take note of the massive anti-black slander out there on the web, and then show that you are fair-minded by fighting “tooth and nail” to defend blacks/ Trayvon against these lies.
Thanks.
Colorbind the previous Anonymous was me.
@Anon 1 I would have thought by now, after all the effort I've put forth, that you might cut me some slack.
Obama made a PERSONAL CONNECTION to a "mystery" question. You even admit this "aided and abetted" the furor. He's said he has rap on is IPOD, Trayvon looks like his son, he does NCAA brackets. This is all street cred. And HE is the one who said his daughters can't listen to rap. Are you calling Obama white?
You checked my comments (and Fox is about the least commented on site, if you check). Have you seen ANYTHING UNFAIR? I cannot comment on everything, and I saw nothing I was drawn to comment on. I make a comment, and then respond to reply alerts. Was I ever unfair? Just because I didn't comment on things I never saw doesn't diminish my objectivity. (Again, how many rapes did you stop yesterday?)
No that was not a dumb statement. It, in context, was an honest question.
I will fight tooth and nail to defend against YOUR "lies". Show me where I have ever been unfair to anyone. Show me where I ever made a racist comment against either side. If I did not spend hours looking for just the type of comment you are seeking and then respond to it, pardon me for having a life.
I do my best to be fair and objective at all times. That doesn't mean I'm going to see and comment on everything you imagine I should. And I'm betting that some of the vile things you mention were not that vile. And again, I was only able to go back through Disqus, which only had SOME of my comments. There are literally dozens of others over the past few weeks I could not recover. You're so interested in denouncing me. You have the list of sites. Again, knock yourself out. Otherwise, if you have a SPECIFIC OBJECTION TO SOMETHING I ACTUALLY WROTE, then let's see it.
Don't crucify me for something you IMAGINE I should have done. That is blatantly unrealistic, and blatantly unfair. Or would you like somebody to go around and nitpick you for every time they IMAGINE you COULD have done something? Pretty silly, eh?
Colorbind said: “Obama made a PERSONAL CONNECTION to a "mystery" question. You even admit this "aided and abetted" the furor. He's said he has rap on is IPOD, Trayvon looks like his son, he does NCAA brackets. This is all street cred."
Again what the hell does Obama listening to rap have to do with anything? How does listening to rap relate to the Trayvon issue other than YOU making a connection to race- “his homies”? Did Obama talk about Travyon and then at the same time mention his love of rap music/ NCAA brackets? Please send the weblinks if he did connect the two. Also you been avoiding mentioning how Romney and Santorum spoke of the Trayvon issue when they were ASKED to speak of it, just like Obama. And yes Obama did add fuel to the growing fire because every influential black person that make statements – no matter how right they may be- adds fuel to the fire because there is a large population of whites that harbor anti-black sentiments. So what!
Colorbind said: “And HE is the one who said his daughters can't listen to rap. Are you calling Obama white?””
LIAR. Obama never said he doesn’t allow his daughters to listen to rap, he complained about the content of rap music today. Obama’s own words:
"I am troubled sometimes by the misogyny and materialism of a lot of rap lyrics," he said, "but I think the genius of the art form has shifted the culture and helped to desegregate music."
In fact google “Obama and Drop it like a Sock” on Youtube to see him speak of his daughter singing a rap song.
So I’ll repeat what I said Obams’s daughters do listen to rap because only a white person like you would believe that all rap is bad. Obama takes care to avoid exposing his daughters to the negative elements of rap, NOT all rap music.
Colorbind said: “I do my best to be fair and objective at all times. That doesn't mean I'm going to see and comment on everything you imagine I should. And I'm betting that some of the vile things you mention were not that vile. And again, I was only able to go back through Disqus, which only had SOME of my comments. There are literally dozens of others over the past few weeks I could not recover. You're so interested in denouncing me. You have the list of sites. Again, knock yourself out. Otherwise, if you have a SPECIFIC OBJECTION TO SOMETHING I ACTUALLY WROTE, then let's see it.”
No you are not fair and objective and Chauncey carried you point by point in your defense of Zimmerman. I don’t imagine you see anything, in fact I know that you see the numerous anti-black/ Trayvon) garbage because it is all over the internet including FOX News.
My objection is to you claiming to be an “equal opportunity defender” because that is a lie. I’m also appalled that you claim that you do not see the numerous anti-black/ Trayvon lies on the web thus you cannot “hit a pitch” in defense of blacks/ Trayvon. Two bold faced lies.
Colorbind said: “I will fight tooth and nail to defend against YOUR "lies". Show me where I have ever been unfair to anyone. Show me where I ever made a racist comment against either side. If I did not spend hours looking for just the type of comment you are seeking and then respond to it, pardon me for having a life.”
What lies have I stated? You are not an “equal opportunity defender”. I never said you made a racist comment, so I will not look for any. I, along with others, have stated that you defend white/ whiteness “tooth and nail”, and claim to be “an equal opportunity defender”. Okay if you are an equal opportunity defender, SHOW me where you have fought tooth and nail to defend blacks/ Trayvon against slander. Stop lying to me claiming that you do not defend blacks to that extent because you “can't hit a pitch I don't see”. There are NUMEROUS anti-black slander/ lies on the website, including FOX News where you posts comments.
@Anonymous: I DO NOT LIE!!!!!!
Here is the quote from Bill Burton (Obama's former staff member):
“As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn’t want his daughters or any children exposed to,” said spokesman Bill Burton.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0708/Obama_camp_condemns_song_Ludacris_should_be_ashamed.html
I DO NOT LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never said all rap music is bad.
YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chauncey did NOT answer my charges. He has run away from the original questions I asked with my first post. YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!
I have spent hours doing research for YOU, only to have you attack me for not finding what you want. Like Chauncey, asking me to take a test, and then telling me I'm defective because the results weren't what he wanted.
I've done enough for you. I DO NOT LIE. If I have ever been unfair, tell me where. Otherwise, go do your own research. I have better things to do than waste time so you can attack whatever I say. Good bye.
Colorbind said: “ @Anonymous: I DO NOT LIE!!!!!!
Here is the quote from Bill Burton
“As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn’t want his daughters or any children exposed to,” said spokesman Bill Burton.
I DO NOT LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never said all rap music is bad.
YOU LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Colorbind are you really that dumb? Spokeman Bill Burton said Obama does not want his daughter exposed any degrading material in rap music (this I already said), NOT rap music overall. In fact, Burton specifically states “this song” and refers to Ludacris. And again, go to the Youtube video of Obama poking fun of his daughter singing a rap song. Also, I quoted word from word what Obama stated regarding rap. He does allow his daughter to listen to degrading material in rap music, and for that matter any degrading stuff in music on t.v., NOT rap music in general.
Also I never said that you said “all rap music is bad”, I said only a white person like YOU would believe all rap music is bad.
You are LYING regarding this matter- drop it.
@Anon1 You are lying again. I did not say ALL rap. I said rap. Burton's comment corroborates what I said. As I'm sure everyone else here is as sick of this exchange as I am (and I've wasted an additional three hours doing "your" homework), I'll respond directly to your email.
But I will offer these guidelines form the Writer's Handbook which I TRY to use (when not overwhelmed by attacks). Think how much better we'd all be if we all tried to live by these:
Be alert for signs of bias, such as:
* personal attacks on people
* sarcastic language
* sweeping generalizations unsupported by verifiable data
* oversimplification of complex issues, and
* ignoring or belittling opposing views”
* Does the writer sound committed to communicating with readers? As a reader, do you feel like you are being addressed respectfully?
* Does the writer support the claims with evidence?
* Does the writer reveal how and where the evidence was obtained?
* Does the writer recognize THAT OTHER POINTS OF VIEW MAY BE LEGITIMATE?
* Does the writer reach a conclusion that is in proportion to the amount of evidence produced?
May the truth set you free, as well.
ColorBind said...“@Anon1 You are lying again. I did not say ALL rap. I said rap. Burton's comment corroborates what I said. As I'm sure everyone else here is as sick of this exchange as I am (and I've wasted an additional three hours doing "your" homework), I'll respond directly to your email.”
You are an idiot. Your exact words regarding Obama were ”He is the one who said his daughters can’t listen to rap”. Burton's exact words were: “As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn’t want his daughters or any children exposed to.”
Obama not wanting his daughters listening to rap lyrics that perpetuates "misogyny, materialism, and degrading images" does NOT equate to him not wanting his daughters to listen to rap. Show me anywhere where Obama states or implies according to you that his daughters “can’t listen to rap” in light of Obama laughing about his daughter singing the rap song “Drop it Like its Hot”..
Game over liar.
So Ill repeat again: My objection is to you claiming to be an "equal opportunity defender" because that is a lie. I’m also appalled that you claim that you do not see the numerous anti-black/ Trayvon lies on the web thus you cannot "hit a pitch" in defense of blacks/ Trayvon even though you spent hours doing research for me. Two bold faced lies.
@Anon: Pardon the obvious: Obama said his daughters can't listen to SOME, NOT ALL rap". That is an omission of one word. That is not a lie. Not finding the precise words you wish I'd written on the web several weeks ago does not make me a liar. It makes you someone with a grudge that cannot be settled with less than blood. Kinda like the people who have already convicted Zimmerman.
Now, why don't you prove to the good people here that you don't abuse little children, cheat on your taxes, or steal from the Salvation Army kettle. Same standards apply, right?
I do NOT lie. Get a life already.
Colorbind said: “@Anon: Pardon the obvious: Obama said his daughters can't listen to SOME, NOT ALL rap". That is an omission of one word. That is not a lie.”
Loser. You wrote exactly what you meant and tried defending “tooth and nail” your argument that Obama does not allow his daughters to listen to rap. That way you could disprove my remark that “only a white person like you would believe all rap is bad”. What’s even worse is that you attempted to link Obama’s like for rap with the Trayvon case. Pathetic
Colorbind said: “Not finding the precise words you wish I'd written on the web several weeks ago does not make me a liar. It makes you someone with a grudge that cannot be settled with less than blood. Kinda like the people who have already convicted Zimmerman.
Now, why don't you prove to the good people here that you don't abuse little children, cheat on your taxes, or steal from the Salvation Army kettle. Same standards apply, right?”
Looking for attention again?! I wanted you to post a website in which you fought “tooth and nail” for blacks/ Trayvon like you do for whites/ whiteness/ Zimmerman, but of course you couldn’t. Even worse, you proceeded to argue that you cannot defend what you do not see wanting people to believe that you do not see the massive amount of slander regarding blacks/ Trayvon on the web, including on the FOX news site you visit. I have nothing to prove because I never falsely claimed myself to be “an equal opportunity defender” like YOU have.
Colorbind : “I do NOT lie. Get a life already.”
You do lie and actually it’s you who need to get an life and stop stalking me and Chauncey via email. But of course you can't because it's a power thing for you.
@EVERYBODY ON THIS SITE:
I would like to apologize for all the time and bandwidth wasted by a "lady" who clearly has a grudge and will not accept yes for an answer. (Anon 1). As there is clearly no pleasing her, I will not be wasting your time (or mine) by responding further to her assaults from Fantasyland. I'm sure she'll have no trouble finding someone else she can castigate for telling the truth because the words aren't precise enough for her.
Again, sorry for the wasted space.
ROTLMBAO!!!
Colorbind don't forget to apologize to everyone on the other posts for all the other times you have wasted time and bandwidth! Do I get a personal apology from you via email for harrasing me even after I asked you to stop! LOL!!!
@Anon 1, just in case you come back here again looking to pick the same futile site: Here are YOUR WORDS from above (12:20)
"Obama not wanting his daughters listening to rap lyrics... (that perpetuates "misogyny, materialism, and degrading images")
does NOT equate to him not wanting his daughters to listen to rap"
Let's simplify your logic:
"Obama not wanting his daughters listening to rap lyrics DOES NOT equate to him not wanting his daughters listening to rap."
Then just exactly what does it equate to?
I rest my case. You can't even untwist your own words on this.
@Anon 1 PS, and this should be my last because you have made a false charge against me (YOU LIED). I did not harass you. I pointed out that we were saving bandwidth on this site.
Just so there's no more false charges, here is what I wrote:
See how much space we each saved the WARN site?
I have already responded to your latest BS on WARN. Give it up and grow up.
You agree that Obama doesn't want his daughters listening to rap (some). That was my point. Sorry I again didn't use the PRECISE words you want. That is not a LIE. It's you setting up near impossible standards. You are clearly not worth the time. I'm trying to save the WARN site more of this nonsense. Have a little respect. Do the same.
Thank you.
There, now we have the TRUTH again.
I will not respond to any more LIES from you. Good bye.
ColorBind asked: "Then just exactly what does it equate to?"
For the stoopid and extremely challenged like you, it equates to Obama does not want his daughter listening to rap music that perpetuates "misogyny, materialism, and degrading images". I do not want my daughter listening to the rapper LilWwayne and a lot of other foul rappers, that does not mean I do not want my daughter to listen to rap. What is so hard about understanding this?
ColorBind said... “@Anon 1 PS, and this should be my last because you have made a false charge against me (YOU LIED). I did not harass you. I pointed out that we were saving bandwidth on this site..."
Colorbind I asked you to stop responding to me via email, you still sent me an email. Stop lying again. Chauncey does not care if I post (he does have a problem with you though) so stop concerning yourself with bandwith, unless you’re ready to stop posting. You keep saying this is the last time I'll respond to you, but you keep responding to me. You have issues.
Colorbind said: “You agree that Obama doesn't want his daughters listening to rap (some). That was my point. Sorry I again didn't use the PRECISE words you want. That is not a LIE. It's you setting up near impossible standards. You are clearly not worth the time. I'm trying to save the WARN site more of this nonsense. Have a little respect. Do the same.”
Lying again, so I’ll just repeat what I said agin. You wrote exactly what you meant and tried defending “tooth and nail” your argument that Obama does not allow his daughters to listen to rap. That way you could disprove my remark that “only a white person like you would believe all rap is bad”. What’s even worse is that you attempted to link Obama’s like for rap with the Trayvon case. Pathetic
Colorbind here is what you said today at 1:27pm. "As there is clearly no pleasing her, I will not be wasting your time (or mine) by responding further to her assaults from Fantasyland.
Again, sorry for the wasted space."
LIAR. You still wasting everyone's time, still wasting space on this and other posts, and still lying to yourself.
April 30, 2012 1:27 PM
@EVERYBODY ON THIS SITE:
Again, apologies for the unhinged lady from (VA?) She has issues.
Q.E.D.
"As there is clearly no pleasing her, I will not be wasting your time (or mine) by responding further to her assaults from Fantasyland.
Again, sorry for the wasted space." said Colorbind.
ROTFLMAO!!! Chauncey, Sabrinaa, Sledge, CNulan, along with others have noted that it is you who has issues!
You be votin for Odouchebag? Keep them gov'ment checks comin'.
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